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February 2, 2012

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The lecture is from r. 2004 a UFO conference in USA.

Dr. Bergrun not an amateur observer, but is a scientist who has worked all his life in the aeronautical and space research, where he achieved significant accomplishments,  see his biography  (About the Author). So his ability to identify aircraft by an unidentified flying object and read images from NASA satellites, we do not doubt …
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Foreword : Dr. Norman Bergrun issued 20 years ago, a book about the creators of Saturn’s rings. As a leading scientist had risked his career that he wanted to tell the truth. He had been a pioneer.

Norman Bergrun:

Let me tell you a brief synopsis of the lecture: Electric Vehicle (EMV) is an open secret.I’ll show you the vehicles that I saw with my own eyes, and then to the vehicle frame at NASA. I’ll talk about the character of these vehicles. They use a technology that is our own civilization with a high IQ. Then the events of the moon and the moon.

NASA images are an open secret, are open to the public, such as the Voyager missions.They are on the site, but none of them were not interpreted. It’s a mystery to us screaming in his face. And we are trying to unravel.

Lecture title: Evidence of Extraterrestrial Intelligence – a public secret, International ufological Congress, Laughlin, Nevada, February 14th, 2004.

Let me tell you a story about a plane Ryan P3. Can carry 60,000 gallons of fuel, lots of guns, maybe 10 torpedoes, depth missiles for submarines, has on board a variety of equipment, lots of safety equipment, worked for a long time, and today’s modern aircraft still flying. This airplane is in r. 1972 May 27, after the start of the Californian coast lost. The last signal was over the city of Salinas. It was about this story in the news. 4300 HP had a lot of equipment, and everything was lost, did not stay the oil spill. Everything seemed to evaporate, no one knows how or where. The search found nothing.

In September 1971, I was at the bay on vacation, I lay on my back and looked up and saw a very bright light. I thought it was a helicopter of the Navy, where they often flew.The sun was behind me, I thought, it’s a reflection, and then I realized that the sun can reflect on this helicopter. I looked through binoculars and saw what shows this model.Do you see him? (Below.)

 I've seen this kind of vehicle

I’ve seen this kind of vehicle. Its diameter was about thirteen times greater than the length of the model. Should at each end of the flame. Then came the flames as two shots, here are the two wires, and among them was a black thing in the form of rods, and when she reached the end, you could see a very bright light, like the arc lamps. I say to those drátkům down mustache vehicle.

Perhaps you are wondering what they are going up these ribbons with bullets. I call it the bands, there were many of them here, I only have a few. Emit a plasma, it is high temperature gas, so that, releasing plasma globules, and these are moved up along the streamers.

Interestingly, the plasma had a yellow and green color, it means that there was chlorine.This is a way to disrupt the ozone layer. Quickly, I wanted to make a picture, because formed clouds, and I managed to make one, yet it almost disappeared behind the clouds, but it is obvious that there is a body.

Here’s a quick sketch of the model that I drew when I came home. Basically, it looked like this:

 Here's a quick sketch of the model that I drew when I came home

Maybe it’s not exact proportions, but it shows the basic features. 

That somehow seemed the ribbons. What is before them, I call the nose of the vehicle.

 That somehow seemed the ribbons. What is before them, I call the nose of the vehicle

I made a custom image that can be seen as clouds. The object created clouds. (NB. Orgonet: The film is on video, indistinct).

In December 1972 I saw this object that shone in many colors. The whole thing was flashing. (Below.)

In December 1972 I saw this object that shone in many colors. The whole thing was flashing
When you see something that flashes different colors and are based on the rays, it can not be a plane. I wondered where it was geometrically. I was on a beach in Santa Cruz, and a wife at home in Los Altos, so we chart a point of intersection of the two lines. It was about 60 miles from the coast.

Then I learned that the army had lost airship capable of carrying four aircraft at about that point, like before the plane Ryan. That you have two cases, so you can imagine what it is about the relationship of our extraterrestrial friends to engines of war, and they are certainly around us … That’s my opinion, maybe you disagree with me. I am trying to put together the pieces of the puzzle.

And now let’s look at the Voyager images. V1 started to Saturn 5 September 1977, he was closest to 12 November 1980. V2 started 20 August 1977. The closest was 26 August 1981. Their approach is 9 months difference. NASA must stick to the party line and say here publicly … so by the former version of NASA, the rings are made up of primary materials, are essentially static and the Cassini Division is no material. I saw the television images from the Voyager 1 and Division Cassini I saw a kind of stick and if there was Voyager 2, again I saw some stuff. NASA now has a version that there are large chunks of matter and ice.

Here you can see the rings and their names, it gets F ring, then the ring A, among them is the Encke division. Between A and B is a division of Cassini. Here is drawn with some material inside. Then, the rings C and D, but now we will be interested only ring A.

 Then, the rings C and D, but now we will be interested only ring A

This is the cover of my book. Orange object that you see, will be discussed later. It is the energy space which adjoins the left side to the ring A.

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 Another picture is very dark, you can see it on the upper part of the ring, and a light source, one that is on the cover of my book on the left side. Numbers 1 and 2 will be discussed later, you’ll see that the bottom ring and just missing.

 Another picture is very dark 

For the next picture you can get an idea of the size. The diameter of Saturn is about 10 times larger than the diameter of Earth, and diameter of the ring system of about 6 times larger than Earth. Whole system is 22x larger than Earth. That is quite a lot.Another thing about this picture is that one ring is cut by the Cassini line. Straight portion is about as large as the diameter of Saturn.

 For the next picture you can get an idea of the size

On the next slide you see the ring B (B-ring) and a luminous source (luminous source), again on the cover of the book. This thing has a diameter larger than our moon. It’s a chunk of energy in addition to the ring. First I noticed that the ring A (A-ring) has a piece cut. It was a mystery. There piece missing, and nor is it a circle. Furthermore, there is a long subject, body (points), which actually closes the ring A.

On the next slide you see the ring B (B-ring) and a luminous source (luminous source)
But he’s really looking around, you see here, the exhaust gas (exhaust) under the light source (light source), and the subject includes ribbons (streamers) – I do those long things I say ribbons – and go up into the ring (A ring) . And so I understand how the ring made – is generated by an object from the other side nothing.

Later, I tried to understand what the body, and it turned out it was electric.

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February 3, 2012

Norman Bergrun: Evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence 2nd

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 One fellow scientist could not believe what I just said and asserted that I have the right image. Right is supposedly the right (see figure below). You can see that it is both elongated body, the nose is to the right. Pictured on the left you see no. 1 – light under his nose, lacking the right light. On the left you can see the texture of the ring ribbons on the right is not monolithic. NO. 3 – left a bit to see ribbons (streamer), but the streamers produces plasma is seen at right. On the right you can see the colors of the plasma, and blue under tilts, and left not. He did not understand that there are different levels of the process. There are four images of the area, and when processing data, and image are missing some places, images and superimpose them, connects and creates one image that is published, and the level creation process rings there are not visible.To confuse him.

 Now the other side of the missing ring... oblong object, its emissions go into the ring, exhaust gases light source, this time above the ring because of high exposure

 Now the other side of the missing ring – most labels you already know (see figure below). Again there oblong object, its emissions (Emissions points) that go into the ring, exhaust gases (exhaust) light source, this time above the ring (luminous source) because of high exposure. The thing that I would like to talk about the toroid (toroidal cylinder) on a curved arm that goes up. Around the conductor comprising electricity in fact forms a toroid, because around it there is a magnetic field. 

 Around the conductor comprising electricity in fact forms a toroid, because around it there is a magnetic field

This is an example of the magnetic field around the cylindrical conductor (picture below). Wire (conductor), the current flow (current flow), the concentric magnetic field.Torus – an annular cylinder shaped American donut with a hole in creating and aircraft.So there is evidence that the object has electrostatic discharge properties.

 This is an example of the magnetic field around the cylindrical conductor

 Vrátímm to the first image of the object on the right, because there you can see the flow upwards. You see perpendicular plasma currents that go from the bottom of the object and intersect at right angles. This is caused also by the electric field. If there were not, they would not form right angles. So we begin to understand that it is electromagnetic matter.

And because of those two characteristics I say to those vehicles EMV – Electromagnetic vehicle, because it captures their essence.

 You see perpendicular plasma currents that go from the bottom of the object and intersect at right angles

Here (below) you can see the progress of the field lines around a cylindrical electrical conductors, which may explain why they currents coming from the object vertically – again characteristic of electricity. ( NB. Org .: omitting details – engineers understand, others just do not.)

 you can see the progress of the field lines around a cylindrical electrical conductors

When Voyager 2 flew past Saturn, flew ring. It is interesting that had aboard detector plasma. Until then, no one admitted that the rings contain plasma. The ring should have a thickness of 10 miles or less. Yes, the ring may have this thickness, but can also be very thick, depending on whether it is near the EMV. The graph (below) shows the flyby spacecraft ring. Is there a time history of the flyby plasma. The device operates at frequencies – recognizes the plasma of different frequencies given in decibels. According to this measure the thickness – to me it comes down to 600 miles. This is a great distance. It is proof that the ring can be quite thick – and the reason is that Voyager flew close around EMV object. If there was not an object, Voyager might have seen absolutely no ring. It would be something like the contrail of an aircraft, which fades away, and found it was much smaller values for the thickness. So thickness varies greatly by location.

 When Voyager 2 flew past Saturn, flew ring. It is interesting that had aboard detector plasma

Then there is the image Overshoot star (below). Before I gave Builder rings, I studied astronomical literature, and I found something similar to what I had, if at all possible.It’s a picture of Saturn called Fly star. Two astronomers from the UK whose names you see there, each working in a different lab and noticed something called a star because it gave off a very intense light, as is crossing the rings of Saturn. You can see that it flew the same area of the ring that I showed you earlier. Therefore, it seemed very similar, it was again a division Cassini. Both there, then they saw a bright object, and then passed this image, and marveled that fly through the ring did not make any problem, and indeed over amazed. It was actually a proof that in the ring and nothing. And there’s nothing strange if we know what works in the Cassini Division …

 Then there is the image Overshoot star

Here is a picture of Miranda, it is a satellite of Uranus (below). At first I thought that the object 1 is part of a long object, which goes through the entire picture above. Then I realized that it was probably a short object EMV. It enables you to see the characteristic features of such emissions, projections of material, and is typical for the building of the second, but what is important in this picture, it’s Nos. 8 and 9, I call it energy rolls.Evidently this EMV have the ability to create any shape what they want. For me, those things “storehouse” (stores) like they need military aircraft carrying torpedoes, and they can use to control all emissions in the region. 

They can control their appearance, according to electromagnetic laws may shape what they want, an infinite number of shapes. So we sometimes think that we see different objects, but they all come from a single unit. Changing shape and size depending on what they are doing. And it is very important idea: there is one basic thing that shows itself in different forms.

They can control their appearance, according to electromagnetic laws may shape what they want, an infinite number of shapes

As seems to be the creators of the rings as a UFO? They’re very good UFA. Above left is a typical shape for EMV, while showing top and bottom. But it can also show only the top and look like a hat. Amid a cross section of a hat.

 a typical shape for EMV, while showing top and bottom

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February 5, 2012

Norman Bergrun: Evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence 3rd

I have to complain that the translation is pretty hard work – the sound is very weak, the professor can mumble under his breath, and cameraman fundamentally changes to the professor when he shows something interesting to slide … Good thing I’m enormously interested, it’s really absolutely vital thing, and now it will soon be translated … a nice Sunday Orgonet wishes. 

Previous part 2 here:  http://orgo-net.blogspot.com/2012/02/norman-bergrun-dukazy-mimozemske_03.html

Video 5/7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jERX7pQ9kGQ

UFO may have these shapes (see below), but may be angular, by what they do. Below left you have an object in the shape of L, it is EMV sending projection just right so it does not shape. Such is the lot. They may have a projection on the other side and look different. Bottom right you have the shape of a cloud in the shape of the lens, which is EMV uvnitř.To is typical when you see such a lenticular cloud, it is very likely there EMV.So you see that have properties that enable them to create UFOs – unidentified flying objects (Undentified flying objects).

 UFO may have these shapes

But for us to begin to be longer IFO (identified flying objects), we’re getting closer to understand.

EMV are therefore flying objects having an electromagnetic nature, and we can mark them as IFO. Then there are those things from them, and we would like to know what it is. Gradually about them compose pieces of the puzzle. The EMV capabilities will learn fascinating things.

I was in r. 1987 in Rome at the congress called scientific dimension of cultural development, under the auspices of UNESCO. It was about the impact of science on culture. The weather has been the same, and I decided to show there are pictures that show you and tell you that the weather can be disturbed by these EMV, their plasma fringes and so on. It was in the year. 87, and I am very proud that what I said there is still proving to be true. Over the years there are many cases where this is happening.

EMC will also relate to the debate on global warming and melting Arctic ice. I do not want to talk to the environmentalists, but when and composing pieces of the puzzle, there is missing one variable, which is not considered, and the variable are now EMV.They have great energy (I’ll show you in a moment one source of the same diameter as the moon), and they can also be the cause of melting ice.

Now let’s look at the Apollo 12 (below). Commander was Pete Conrad. He came down with Bean in the lunar module on the moon, and Gordon remained in orbit in the boat.Remember, this is done by Pete Conrad, it has to be Bean. I’ve marked it 1. Object 2 is to be collector solar wind. It’s not easy to see, but the collector has such like a flag in which cosmic rays collide. That picture is on the Internet, the Web author is Eric Jones (Pos. Orgonet: Reference:  http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/ ., Archive photoshttp://www.apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html )

So, this is supposed to be a bean that photographing the white spot behind the camera should be. It looks like an astronaut, see his feet, but let’s look at it closer.

 So, this is supposed to be a bean that photographing the white spot behind the camera should be. It looks like an astronaut, see his feet, but let's look at it close

And this is more closely (see below). It seems that rotates to do the picture.

 And this is more closely (see below). It seems that rotates to do the picture

And this is very close (below). We see that there is not just “astronaut”. Is there something like a body, like a shadow, which is surrounded by white light. If it was an astronaut, so it was rather the shadow. If you look closely at his “feet”, so you can see that this is not an astronaut. It’s just sort of object.

 If you look closely at his 'feet', so you can see that this is not an astronaut. It's just sort of object

Here’s a second look at his feet, with added contrast (below). Is there created lighting effect of which from afar think it’s an astronaut. But it’s not an astronaut, is not in any event Bean. Is there something like a raised arm, it suggests something like a bionic robot.

 Is there something like a raised arm, it suggests something like a bionic robot

Next slide (below): It should be Pete Conrad. Famous film, everyone thinks Pete builds flag as commanders do after landing. Please pay attention to the area between the two arrows.

It should be Pete Conrad. Famous film, everyone thinks Pete builds flag as commanders do after landing
Zoom (below): Arrows 1 shows a dark area that looks like a crater, Arrow 2 shows that if a crater or a cavity 3 shows on some material leading into the country, actually a month. It’s a huge thing that leads upstairs. It’s Pete with a hole in his belly? But he returned alive. Again, it’s a situation where we think it’s an astronaut, but it’s not an astronaut. It was something else.

 Again, it's a situation where we think it's an astronaut, but it's not an astronaut. It was something else

Now look at the lunar module. I’ll show you three. Their images can be seen GET time, but do not know if those images are in the correct time sequence. GET is a Ground Elapsed Time (the time elapsed since the start of the Earth), you see there for hours, minutes and seconds. Do you see lunar horizon to him reportedly the Apollo 11th

 Now look at the lunar module. I'll show you three

On the next slide you see the three lunar modules, and the back of the horizon (3).Below is a color calibrator for color images, it is called Gnome (2). Then there is the transport module for transporting material (1).

 On the next slide you see the three lunar modules

Here’s the lander Apollo 11th Note, that it is his panel octagon shape, very high above the ground (that month).

 Here's the lander Apollo 11th Note, that it is his panel octagon shape, very high above the ground

And compare it with the “module” on the horizon from the first picture in the approach.You can see osmiúhelný shape, it is one that I showed you on Apollo 11, but is low, and around it are some strange formations. It’s apparently the Apollo 11 …

 And compare it with the 'module' on the horizon from the first picture in the approach

Taking a Closer Look later: It’s the last image by GET time. Here’s even worse … octagon almost touches the ground, not in height as on Apollo 11, and other materials around him seemed enthused. Number two is a black rod-shaped object, which adjoins something, it looks as though it generated a kind of tree shape.

 Here's even worse ... octagon almost touches the ground, not in height as on Apollo 11, and other materials around him seemed enthused

Video 6/7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mcCeoz7bxI&feature=related

This is the last time frame, but I think it should be between the previous two because it shows the process of growth – it is something between a full-fledged initial shape and form.

It’s a funny-looking structure, and I think its purpose was that we wanted to let you know that they are able to make a replica that looks like what we have. A very clever use of shadow and light, so eventually become a thing that looks like what we know.And yet, it’s very strange.

 A very clever use of shadow and light, so eventually become a thing that looks like what we know.And yet, it's very strange

(The other is working.)

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February 7, 2012

Norman Bergrun: Evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence 4th

EMC also appeared on the spacecraft images of Mars and the Moon.

This is a picture of Mars because of the orientation (below). Do you see the entire surface of Mars, here’s meridian, there are poles. Here is an area called Helios Basin.Examined him and probes Rover Spirit.

 Here is an area called Helios Basin.Examined him and probes Rover Spirit

Then there is a picture of Mars piping length of 6.3 million miles. Somewhere down the North Pole. 

 Then there is a picture of Mars piping length of 6.3 million miles. Somewhere down the North Pole

Via close (below) between four arrows is an elliptical shape. There we see something like nose. And it goes on and we see there the entire body. Here is a fringe upwards, and here screenings. So based on what we already know, we have again EMC characteristics.

These structures can be seen at all space missions ever since, until now. On Mars, there are a lot … 

 These structures can be seen at all space missions ever since, until now. On Mars, there are a lot

Here it is the moon on the Apollo 13 image (below).

Here it is the moon on the Apollo 13 image

This image I like (below): top right you can see the structure from which a flow of something like a laser. It is obvious that this is connected with the body. You see, it’s pretty robust, and that region of the moon is certainly affected by this giant EMC. Month probably is not very hospitable place.

 This image I like (below) top right you can see the structure from which a flow of something like a laser

Here I flew kites. What I want you to realize where we are. We have compared them about the capabilities and as a dragon right, we can do jet propulsion, but its possibilities are far and for their drive.

 Here I flew kites. What I want you to realize where we are

Theory of civilizations

now turn to the concept of civilization. In the Soviet Union, today’s Russia is one person, I read his articles when I have dealt with space technologies, named Nikolai Kardashev. He hypothesized that IQ society is related to the amount of energy which the company can operate successfully. If you can not control nuclear enerii and you learn it, you’ve progressed one step further. Nikolai said that the civilization of type 1, 2 and 3. However, it is also a type 0, that’s us.

So we are going to define. 

Type 1 civilization is a company that is able to control all the resources on Earth. We have a storm, weather, all this must be controlled if we are to be invited to type the first

Company Type 2 must control all the resources of the sun. Tamta projections at the top of the Sun is supposedly a 90x diameter of the Earth. It seems that there is an object, and it is interesting to find that the sun is formed of nuclear fusion another.That’s what I think. It looks like EMV again. Does this stuff down, circular area. So it seems that the sun is not what we think it should be. So, a company controlled Type 2 has all the energy of the sun.

 So, a company controlled Type 2 has all the energy of the sun

Type 3 civilization must master all the resources of the galaxy. This is a huge leap forward, but Kardashev defined it this way. On cross-section of the Milky Way galaxy you see that its width is about 100 000 light years, it is a great distance to travel, and yet it must control … there thickness as arrows, is 10,000 light-years, and in the midst of about 30 000 light flight.

 Type 3 civilization must master all the resources of the galaxy

This table is Kardaševových civilizations. Dole us.

 This table is Kardaševových civilizations

(Video 7/7:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR9YIMQN1tU&feature=related )

The numbers below represent all visible energy. The vertical axis you have the type of civilization, or the numbers indicate their IQ. These different types of civilization are separate, discrete. Energy Saturn and the Sun are very close, Saturn is actually the final source of civilization 2. The country is not even master the first type yet about 7/10 of energy. Do you see the situation in 2001. The next level is the Milky Way. We got three points in a straight line, that we are lucky because we can extend. And when they extend, we will get to control all the energy of the universe. When you want to control, you have to be the type of company about 6.5.

Now the question arises, where is God in this picture. Decreased somehow intelligence or infinite? Above you can see infinity, and the upper-right corner of the chart I say, “God’s Area”. Because God is infinite, he knows everything in the universe. Time is of some 50 billion years old, so it’s enough time to make it all happen. The vertical difference between where we are now and type 1 is still a lot of years. So you can imagine that we get somewhere far way too fast. (Completion will soon follow.)
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Norman Bergrun: ingenious explanation of objects around planets

Big thanks to readers for the following posts in the comments (below  Anonymous – apparently sent the same reader?) 
Lecture dr. Norman Bergrun – I just dokoukáno all 7 parts – absolutely brilliant !!! illuminates a lot about the objects around stars, planets and the Earth … It absolutely fits into (my) existing knowledge and ideas.
So now vyvěšuju, although so far in English – who understand, be sure to check. During the day, I decided to make it (I hope that I make) at least resume. Subtitling would be great, but everything probably will not have much time. If he found a candidate, write, let nedublujeme.
Perhaps the reader who sent the links on Ringmakers write something – probably already familiar?

From the readers:

[!]Ringmakers Of Saturn by Norman R. Bergrun [www.goodreads.com] (469×691)

Sensational lecture dr. Norman Bergrun of his amateur astronomy observations sensational events in and around Saturn.In a group of 7-videos are a lot of visual material including Saturnian mock spacecraft that dr. Bergrun called “Ringmakers – Creators rings (the rings around Saturn!”). He borrowed a pattern tzvané “Creator of Wings” (see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2W-l6EJQaY , and here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlcjyB8x- rA ) of earthly Mexican finds in the Ancient Arrow! 
it would be good again, if someone took the subtitling of all these videos presented in this commentary. Videos have immense evidential value

S. Orgonet: It’s not just about Saturn – the same objects observed Bergrun and around the moon, Mars and the (first) State. And we have long known of the solar neighborhood , we just could not explain it. It’s a galactic matter.  But for the most sensational consider the conclusion of the lecture – the types of civilizations!Continuation – from a reader: This series of videos is related to another series of videos called “The Elites worship of Saturn and the coming ENTITIES! …. (Part.1 and 5) “Elite worshiping Saturn (Saturnalia) and approaching (in the universe towards us) All the 5 videos, you will not regret it! It would be interesting if someone this cycle provided the headlines. This cycle is related to the findings so. CUBE (black giant cubes), which occurs (ie “travels”) in different parts of the solar system, and also directly at the sun (see here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7cInAnGS_g , and also here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CylPQnKZdQ ). It therefore seems that the science fiction novel by Arthur C. Clarke’s “2001: A Space Odyssey” (a film of the same name from 1968 under the direction of Stanley Kubrick) has a completely CORE FAIR (in the novel and film used the term smooth black monolith in the form of a cuboid in reality, it’s a cube!)! You have already found large quantities of giant objects of different shapes and different colored lights (the latest shots here from around January 20, 2012: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHuuv04pGlI ) Orgonet PS:  I have not zkouknuto – but it still seems to me that both cycles together quite related. Ringmakers the galactic matter, not just around Saturn – Saturn but if it is indeed the seat of evil, maybe they just manufacture plasma around Saturn is to protect the galaxy? So I can see that these two cycles really unrelated. The first four parts of the obsessive zabýající symbolism of Saturn and the cube, I find boring (or am I missing something), Part 5 (where the Saturn speak), it is interesting – he would give me the translation …


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Alien Motherships and The Ringmakers of Saturn

Posted on May 27, 2011 | 21 Comments

Infrared photograph of one of the gigantic cylindrical objects taken by Hubble in the rings of Saturn

The Ringmakers of Saturn

Dr. Bergrun privately undertake a detailed study of NASA Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 photographs of the rings of Saturn. He has discovered how the rings are being formed by emissions emerging from gigantic electromagnetic vehicles (EMV’s) Electro Magnetic Vehicles possibly being controlled by a form of intelligence. www.ringmakersofsaturn.com

Listen to Dr. Norman Bergrun at the International UFO Congress

Part 2  –  Part 3  –  Part 4  –  Part 5  –  Part 6  –  Part 7

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The Ringmakers of Saturn – Dr. Norman Bergrun [d13N7u3EufY] [thetruthbehindthescenes.wordpress.com] [513×441] (13∶30)➤
Norman Bergrun’s “The Ringmakers of Saturn” is the inspiration for this video of the mysterious rings of Saturn. The big 3 amigo’s on ATS (mikesingh, zorgon, and internos) have each added enormous effort of personal research on this subject, by gathering up to date Cassini satellite imagery that is showing some very interesting anomalies on and around the ringed planet.

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An amazing analysis from these cosmic experts: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread301532/pg1

Besides these motherships around Saturn, they are also seen near the Sun and other places in space.

Alien Spacecraft

A selection of gigantic motherships captured (Lasco-Soho) near the Sun and in Space which are comparable in size to the UFOs of Saturn.

A selection of gigantic motherships captured (Lasco-Soho) near the Sun and in Space [thetruthbehindthescenes]}

Image taken from the video clip ‘The Ringmakers of Saturn’

A 90 Degree turn in less than 10 minutes!![thetruthbehindthescenes]

A 90 Degree turn in less than 10 minutes!!

 

Incredible (3) Alien Spacecraft!![thetruthbehindthescenes]

Ufo next to our Sun displays huge Orbs..!![thetruthbehindthescenes]

EMV – electromagnetic vehicle

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Amazing Alien Spacecraft near the (Sun) . . . ... ([thetruthbehindthescenes.wordpress.com])

Dr. Bergrun also talked about gigantic electromagnetic vehicles (EMV’s)  A team (Freiheitsberger, areca81, mitchellgibsonmd8000 and others) examined pictures from the SOHO STEREO EUVI 195satellites and found huge objects orbiting in the corona of the sun and other details. Zooming in on them you can detect the astonishing shape these objects have and from thatOmetaOne created a visualization of how they may look like. Watch video below..

According to James Horak these are EMVs – Electro Magnetic Vehicles. He reveals that they calm down the sun’s activity and it is a force that is ensuring that devolution can not occur in the universe.

EMVs – Electro Magnetic Vehicles in the Corona [KO-l2JCPfy8] (5∶18)
EMVs – Electro Magnetic Vehicles in the Corona [KO-l2JCPfy8] (5∶18)➤
Part 2  –  Part 3  –  Part 4

Imagine a Ship so Massive that it could affect a Planets gravitation fields to extreme degress . . . ... ([thetruthbehindthescenes])
Imagine a Ship so Massive that it could affect a Planets gravitation fields to extreme degress . . . … ([thetruthbehindthescenes])➤
Imagine a ship so massive that it could affect a planets gravitation fields to extreme degress just by coming close to us.

Imagine just for a moment a ship so huge that if it came down into our atmosphere it would block the sun from one side of the earth to the other, effectively darkening the planet merely by it’s size.

Think of the technology that would account for a ship like that!

Imagine an entire civilization existing on a planetary scale on a manufactured vessel…

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Source and author: ringmakersofsaturn * ATS * OmetaOne *  emvsinfo *credit images: streetcap and BeePee

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21 RESPONSES TO “ALIEN MOTHERSHIPS AND THE RINGMAKERS OF SATURN”

  1. Darla Ken Jensen PearceMay 27, 2011 at 10:59 pm |

All of this is true. It’s exciting to finally see some truth coming forth that cannot be denied. Now that we can “see” these Celestial Beings in action for ourselves through technology.
What is so thrilling to me is that Earth and all beings upon her have suffered from a “separation issue” from our own Source Creators. Most of us have been locked into a state of forgetfulness that overcame us for the last 13 million years or more.

We, for whatever reason, and these reasons are known but immaterial now to our perceptions ~ that is ~ now that our consciousness has risen enough for us to repair, restore, and resurrect our own DNA, as well as, all the strands missing that lay dormant in past days. DNA that was tinkered with and altered allowing us to be imprisoned along with the Earth for many aeons.

Not remembered but restored now is that Saturn is the Beloved Grandfather of the Milky Way Galaxy and so honored among all Universes as to have become a Waystation and Galactic Center for the Council of Worlds.

And that now with our rising consciousness, we have begun to remembrance in earnest of how glorious, how marvelous, how endearingly wonderful it is to finally remember who we are and that is Divine Children of a Most Loving Creator.

On May 10, 2009, I had an opportunity to work briefly with the Galactic Federation of Light on a small task for Mother Earth. It was accomplished in less than a 24 hours period on Mother’s Day Night. After this event, I had a chance to get a tour of the Milky Way Galaxy and beyond. Just prior to retuning to Earth in a Merkana with a personage I recognized and know well as my Heavenly Father, Jupiter, I got to stop by the Planet Saturn during one of these World Council Meetings long enough to kiss my Grandfather, Saturn, on the forehead. Prior to that date ~ I had no memory or recall of who I was, so this was a tremendously important and happy day in my life so far.
I am a Divine (as our we all) and very human woman, mother of seven, grandmother of 19, and great grandmother of 4, so far.

The only thing I have to offer to you this day is that when speaking of Saturn, an Exalted Being and Planets like Jupiter and Saturn and the many others, if we can respectful refer to these glorious personages, as Celestials, Galactics, or simply as “Our Beloveds” as I do.

They deserve an honored place within our own hearts and I would like to restore and clear up the misconceptions that have kept us imprisoned within our own minds.

Surely miracles ~ and ~ a most wonderful and blessed time has been restored upon the Earth for all beings within and without, over, above, and below, Earth’s own majestic personage.
Some respect is outrageous overdue for these fabulous Beings of Light and Love! And so it is…Not just this day but Forevermore . . . ….


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Gigantic Alien Craft Photographed By Cassini! NASA’s Cover-Up Blown? Mike Singh’s Collection
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Discussion Thread at ATS About These Anomalies

Posted on  8-9-2007 @ 06:06 AM (ID:3496311)

Originally posted by mikesingh (ATS Post ID:3496311)

At the outset, I would like to mention that the clearest photographs yet of gigantic alien spacecrafts published in the French newspaper L’actualite insolite had been posted earlier last year in my thread “Alien Objects Orbiting Saturn’s Rings?” by balonO

Unfortunately, balonO’s post had been lost in the deep caverns of the thread and out of sight. Considering its importance, I thought it needed to be exhumed and discussed in a different thread as it deserves more attention than it has.

That said, this particular photograph is corroborated by another taken in the infra red spectrum by the Hubble Space Telescope of the gigantic object near Saturn, and posted on another thread of mine here. This pic is reproduced below: 

[!]Saturn Ring Object [thelivingmoon.com] [583x427]}
Now for the photograph in the French news paper which is similar to the one above, purportedly taken by Cassini near Saturn…..
 Huge cigar shaped object clearly shown following a definite path in an orbit  along the edge of Saturn’s  ring.
Pic: HST WFPC2,  Space Telescope Science Institute (STScI).

[!]Photograph in the French news paper purportedly taken by Cassini near Saturn…It is in French, so what it basically says is that those objects are massive OVNIS (UFOs) photographed by Cassini near Saturn, and put under wraps by NASA. One of the objects is Earth sized and one over 50,000 Km in length (Four times Earth’s diameter!)L’actualite insolite – Click image for the enlargement

How did this French news paper get its hands on this photograph? Unfortunately, we don’t have more info on its authenticity. Can the photo experts here try and interpret it?

Keeping in mind the similarity with the HST’s infra red image shown above, it may be an actual photograph taken by Cassini. If genuine, the implications are mind boggling! Are we then seeing incontrovertible evidence of an alien presence in our Solar System? 

And another thing. Small moonlets/asteroids even a couple of hundred miles long have been mapped and named. These objects are Earth size and some more than 50,000 Km long. Then why have these objects not been named? After all, they’ve shown up in the official photographs taken by the HST. But then, that’s probably top secret! You can’t go around naming huge alien objects, can you? Smells of a cover-up, what?

Whatever, the truth is out there in the rings of Saturn!

Cheers! 😀

Originally posted by internos  ATS Post ID3496358
The right side of the same article… 

[!]Photograph in the French news paper… the right side of the same article... [472x603][www.thelivingmoon.com]maxabcts}»  
New UFO Events in 1996 
 L’actualite insolite – Click image for the enlargement

by Richard J. Boylan, Ph.D. 

An abundance of leaks and disclosures pertaining to UFO reality are occurring this year. The following examples are but a sample of recent developments. 

1. On January 30, WRFX-FM, Charlotte, North Carolina featured an interview with a NASA scientist, Dr. Norman Bergrun. His book, The Ring-Makers of Saturn, reveals that NASA’s Voyager I (1980) and II space-probes of Saturn’s rings took photographs of an estimated 7000-mile-long elliptical (cigar-shaped) craft orbiting in the rings. ……

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Originally posted by mikesingh

Good find internos!

I didn’t know that NASA’s Voyager I and II took photographs of an estimated 7000-mile-long cigar shaped craft orbiting Saturn’s rings! I wonder whether we’ll ever get to see the photographs? 

Originally posted by sonicology ATS Post ID3496391

Very interesting pictures; they remind me of a similar object allegedly photographed by a Russian probe in the vicinity of one of the Marsian moons.  Whatever it is, it must be truly massive!

Originally posted by mikesingh
That’s right! It was the Russian probe Phobos II that took the pic, immediately after which it stopped all transmissions. Was it destroyed by the alien object? Here’s the pic…The similarity is striking! 

Russian probe Phobos II that took the pic, immediately after which it stopped all transmissions...
Russian probe Phobos II that took the pic, immediately after which it stopped all transmissions…{•}

Originally posted by Cyber_Wasp ATS Post ID

Awesome stuff you guys have posted.
Another similar area with anomalies is around the sun.

Originally posted by mikesingh

Yep! Here it is… http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread227626/pg1

And the preview of one of the objects near the sun:  

Preview of one of the objects near the sun {eyes116c}
Preview of one of the objects near the sun {eyes116c}

Cheers

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Originally posted by jamesder  ATS Post ID3497247

If we’re talking about the color photograph and not the infrared image, I have a questions:

1) Is there anything in the photo that indicates these objects are anywhere close to the rings of Saturn? I’m not sure there is? 

If you’re taking a photo of something a great distance away at a certain exposure and something closer to the lens passes through your frame, the object is going to appear altered. If it’s a space object following a trajectory, it will appear to be elongated as it has been exposed longer than it would if you were intending to specifically photograph that object.

For example: 

If it's a space object following a trajectory, it will appear to be elongated as it has been exposed longer...}If that’s the case, it probably explains this straight little anomaly right here: 

If that's the case, it probably explains this straight little anomaly right here...}Also, if I’m correct about the elongated form due to overexposure and you look closely at the end of the object, it is fairly irregular looking…..and looks very much like an asteroid in shape and color. The “middle” section looks like the end stretched out and spinning a bit.

I think the photo would be infinitely more compelling if these objects were a shiny metallic/gun-metal color as is commonly cited in UFO reports.

Originally posted by sherpa ATS Post ID

AS a foot note to my last post here is a little about the author of “Ringmakers of Saturn”

Dr. Norman Bergrun is an alumnus of Ames Research Laboratory, NACA (National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics) predecessor of Ames Research Center, NASA where he worked twelve years as a research scientist. At Ames, he pioneered the setting of design criteria for airplane thermal ice-prevention and the developing of roll stability laws for airplanes, missiles and rockets.

He joined Lockheed Missiles and Space Company (now Lockheed Martin) where he was manager of the planning and analysis of flight tests for the Navy Polaris Underwater Launch Missile System. During his thirteen years at Lockheed, he also served as a senior scientist having responsible analysis cognizance of special space-satellite applications. After a short tour of duty with Nielsen Engineering and Research, in 1971 he founded Bergrun Engineering and Research, parent of Bergrun Research founded in 1999 especially for world wide web activities.

An Associate Fellow of the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronauics (AIAA), he is active as a leader in Congressional Visits Day events on Capitol Hill. As Deputy Director-at-Large for the AIAA western region, he overlooks section activities in seven western states. Other memberships include The Planetary Society, The Association for the Advancement of Science, The Aviation Hall of Fame, the National Society of Professional Engineers, the Federation of American Scientists and the Scientific Faculty, International Biographical Centre, Cambridge, England.

Bergrun holds a BSME degree from Cornell University, an LLB from LaSalle University Extension, a DSc (Hon) from World University and a California Professional Engineer (PE) License. He also has engaged in graduate aerospace studies at Stanford University. He is a founder of the California Society of Professional Engineers Education Foundation, is author of two books Tomorrow’s Technology Today and Ringmakers of Saturn and has published over 100 papers. Two recent manuscripts, Lunar Life Forms: Revelations of Apollo 14 and Mars Puts on a Good Face: The Masquerade, have been registered with the Library of Congress, Washington, D. C. He has lectured in the United States, Canada, England and Europe.

Credited with numerous awards and citations including the California Society of Professional Engineers Archimedes Engineering Achievement Award, and Special Service Citations for contributions to the AIAA National Public Policy and to the Regional Sections Activity Committees, he is listed in Marquis “Who’s Who in the World”, “Who’s Who in America”, “Who’s Who in Science and Engineering”, and other reference works.

Continuing interests include photography*, NASA student activities and music, having played as a concert musician at Carnegie Hall with the Cornell University Band and having been a founder of “Aurora Singers”, a 64-voice choir 

[!]Ringmakers Of Saturn by Norman R. Bergrun [www.goodreads.com] (469×691)
[!]Ringmakers Of Saturn by Norman R. Bergrun [www.goodreads.com] (469×691)➤
 

 

Ringmakers of Saturn

Originally posted by internos ATS Post ID3498037

The article of the french journal doesn’t mentions just Bergrund.
It mentions even Walter Vincenti. If you search on NASA website plenty of results about him.
Anyway, I’ll try to get some more info.

Originally posted by johnlear ATS Post ID3498291

I have emailed Norm Bergrum this evening and asked permission to post the real picture of one of the ships in the rings (there are 3 ships). The photo is from Voyager and not Cassini.

I have asked permission to post Plate 5: Ellflux from along the length of the slender body, exhausting at both ends, generates the A-ring. That ship is 31,496 miles in length and 2,422 miles in diameter. The photo is on page 17 of the Ringmakers of Saturn by Norman R. Bergrun available from his website. I will also be making a CD of the Ringmakers of Saturn.

The picture shows the B-ring, the Cassini division, and the A-ring and where the ships is situated at the end of the A-ring.

Although I have not read the text of the French article it is probably a lot from Bergruns book.  The Cassini photo, of course, was fictitious, but the real ships are not.

I expect to hear from Norm by the morning and will post the Voyager photo then.

Originally posted by mikesingh  ATS Post ID3498373

These pictures were taken with the Hubble telescope. Scientists stated that from these photos in sequence they have discovered new moons of Saturn. 

What wasn’t explained was the objects that have been marked A, B and C orbiting Saturn’s outer ring. These huge cigar shaped object’s are clearly shown following a definite path in an orbit along the edge of the ring. 

Satellites Saturn - Hubble Space Telescope [WFPC2] [847x1401][www.thelivingmoon.com]}»
Satellites Saturn – Hubble Space Telescope [WFPC2] [847×1401][www.thelivingmoon.com]}»
Originally posted by mikesingh ATS Post ID

Take a look at this pic from Cassini. Notice the ‘lense flare’ on the elongated object? Or is it an elongated moon? Unlikely. And it couldn’t be a timed exposure which has produced this effect. It’s in ‘real time’.  

Cassini-Huygens [W00003034] [www.thelivingmoon.com]}»Cheers!

Originally posted by internos  ATS Post ID3498611

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGeWBiLVn8g

Originally posted by Trauma Mikesingh 

And, WOW! Amazing find internos!! That’s just mind boggling!  :up: Thanks for the link. Heck! Will surprises never cease? Add everything up and the coincidences are far too many to just brush off the whole affair of ET presence in our Solar System as some big hoax or vivid imagination.

Better to keep an open mind, what? Until ET actually lands in your front lawn and shares a beer with you! 😆

Cheers! 😀 


YouTube Excerpt

Added:  June 30, 2007
From:  jostvandyke2007
Speech patterns have been found in a … Speech patterns have been found in a radio signal released by NASA almost 3 years previously in 2004.

Judge for yourself what the voices are saying, it is a very bizarre anomaly but very much worth investigating.
Instructions:

1) Download and save the original WAV file from NASA/Cassini website:

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/saturn/audio/pia07967-072504.wav

2)Open an audio editor like Cool Edit or Sonar and raise the pitch/frequency of the file by 12 tones with the pitch shifter..

and there it is, speech patterns.

How can anyone explain this anomaly. Certainly NASA have no explanation for it after we presented the file to them for their opinion. SETI also dont know what make of it. What do you think?
SOURCE:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/multimedia/pia07967.html

Enjoy…

Originally posted by mikesingh ATS Post ID3498891

Now here’s an unidentified object, as NASA has admitted (In the green square), orbiting the rings of Saturn!!

Courtesy: NASA/JPL Discovery Channel
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20040906/gallery/saturn_zoom.gif

It’s NOT a moon of Saturn. Notice its orbit which remains within the outer ring. 

Cheers! There’s more where they came from! Keep your eyes peeled! 😀

Originally posted by sherpa ATS Post ID3499642

Well there have been observations for hundred of years one of which occured on the 9th February 1917.

Excerpt

Luminous phenomena in the vicinity of the rings have been observed repeatedly, and prove that electrostatic forces are at work. From the 18th Century onwards luminous points on the ring edge, luminous objects and the disappearance of one side of Saturn’s rings have been observed. One astronomer (Maurice Ainslie) observed a luminous object pass through the rings and devour ring material as it moved. This object was a mass of ionizing radiation, which can destroy ring material. The rings are known to change in brightness, evidently due to time-varying particle flow. White spots where noted on the rings and the planet numerous times. Bright projections on the rings and “sparkling flocculence” where also observed. For example, a white projection was seen near a white spot at the edge of the south equatorial band on 29 September 1910. Voyager 1 took a photo of Saturn and five of its moons, which included an unexpected luminous object. Images of the F-ring show variable luminosity that includes observations of a helical core and emission jets 

Source – http://www.livingcosmos.com/celestial.htm

Originally posted by mikesingh ATS post ID

What do you think of this cylindrical object seemingly breaking up near the Sun? A malfunction? This huge object would be thousands of miles long!! 

This huge object would be thousands of miles long!! (Courtesy∶ SOHOꟾ LASCO)
This huge object would be thousands of miles long!! (Courtesy∶ SOHOꟾ LASCO)➤

Courtesy: SOHO/LASCO

Originally posted by Evasius
That’s one heck of a picture. :up: If it was a comet the tail would most certainly be blown away from the Sun making it always appear to point towards the Sun. If an asteroid was breaking up and was close enough to the sun, the trail would also point away. 

It definitely looks like a huge artificial object that met its demise quickly.

Originally posted by johnlear ATS Post ID3501192

I emailed Norm Bergrun for permission to post the photo of the ship in the rings of Saturn as published in the book The Ringmakers of Saturn, the Pentland Press, Edinburgh, LOCCCN 86-81530, ISBN 0 946270 33 3.

Permission was denied.

In his fax to me this afternoon Norm (in part) said,

“John,

The two pages faxed to you (the French article) were sent to me from France in 1997. The diagram on the second page you will recognize as Plate 27 (RoS) which the French used without my permission. They also translated the book into French and tried to find a publisher. Never could find out whether they succeeded or not.

One post (ATS, “Gigantic Alien Craft Photographed by Cassini NASA’s Coverup Blown” says the following “I’m a little confused. Is the French article claiming that the photo with the three cigar shapes is real, or is that an illustration for their article?” The answer is: “The photo is a ‘kluged-up” image primarily based upon Ringmakers of Saturn Plate 27 page 50.”

Norm goes on to say that he has been trying to protect his intellectual property ever since the publication of Ringmakers of Saturn. He said “I suggest you post a blurb that tells where the French got their idea, refer them to <ringmakersofsaturn.com> and have them, on their Nav bar, click on the book back cover. The image shown is a latent image that was hidden in a NASA Voyager image because of a very dark background. Details and answers to other thread wonderments are disclosed in the RoS book.”

Norm closed by saying:

“Thank you for bringing the web item to my attention.

Best Regards,

Norm”

I guess that I should have asked Norm for permission BEFORE I mentioned it on the thread.

Please accept my apologies for any inconvenience this has caused.

I know that many on this thread and other threads feel that it is ‘their right’ to know and view this information about their solar system not to mention the universe.

They feel that if someone has information that they should not be trying to ‘make a buck’ off it; that the information belongs to all of us.

That may be.

Or if they are trying to ‘make a buck’ off it the information is not really true.

There is no denying that this has certainly happened in the past and will continue to happen. It doesn’t mean this is true for everyone.

It certainly isn’t true for Norm Bergrun and the information presented in the Ringmakers of Saturn. And I am certain of that.

I try to share as much as I know about it despite the thousands of questions that I cannot answer, and most of it for which I cannot offer any proof.

I post what I think is true and you can take it or leave it. 

If the government had wanted you to know all of these things they would have told you. Nevertheless many search for the truth anyway.

And despite what one poster said, “John doesn’t really believe what he says”, I really do. At least the things that I post. I really believe there are at least several space stations in orbit about which we know nothing. I believe that we have been mining on the moon and Mars for many years.

I believe that space vehicles under the operational control of Air Force Space Command and other U.S. Government entities go back and forth to the moon every day with the same ease that a business jet flies from Vegas to Albuquerque. Or any other city.

I believe that at least some of these vehicles operate from normal runways and do not have to be launched by rockets.

But for reasons unknown to us this information has been kept secret since the late 1950’s. And will probably be kept secret for ever. I say ‘for ever’ because I see too many projects in place that will obscure what is really going on. For instance the current NASA moon project to go back there in 2020.

Are they kidding? No. Its all part of a gigantic and well organized coverup. And under no circumstances which includes disclosure, threats by Congress, request by the President will any of this ever become public knowledge.

A few weeks ago a few of us got together, me, Zorgon and a few others and we discussed how much we (the public) knew about government secret projects.

After some discussion we decided that on a scale of zero to a hundred, zero representing that we knew absolutely nothing, to one hundred which represented that we knew everything the government was doing that we knew between .5 to .8 of one.

Since I posted those figures several weeks ago I have come upon some additional information that would cause me to revise those figures. I would like to revise the scale to zero to one thousand. But I am still keeping the .5 to .8 of one to represent what we know. 

There are many that do not share my views and to those I can only say I understand. 

I can also say, “If you only knew.” 🙂

Mike Singh’s Reply

Originally posted by mikesingh ATS Post ID3501216
reply to post by Indellkoffer

 

Indell, here’s a very valid point brought out by Evasius. 

Originally posted by Evasius
That’s one heck of a picture. :up: If it was a comet the tail would most certainly be blown away from the Sun making it always appear to point towards the Sun. If an asteroid was breaking up and was close enough to the sun, the trail would also point away. 
It definitely looks like a huge artificial object that met its demise quickly.

so, a comet’s tail always points in the direction opposite the direction of the sun from the comet.  If the comet were headed directly towards the sun, the comet tail would point straight back from the comet away from the sun.  With any other angle of movement of the comet, the tail still points away from the sun or solar wind. 

In this case the ‘tail’ of the object is parallel to the sun.

Secondly, Comets actually have two tails:  the dust tail and the gas or ion tail.  The ‘pieces’ breaking off from this object are themselves hundreds of miles long. A dust tail would not look like large pieces breaking off.

Originally posted by johnlear  ATS Post ID3501231

Originally posted by internos
I enhanced and rotated it… 🙂

Thanks internos. Now the picture I wanted to post and was asking permission to do so by Mr, Bergrun was Plate 5 on page 17, Ringmakers of Saturn which shows the ship labeled “Vehicle III” in your post above.

It is a Voyager photo of Saturn’s rings and Vehicle III is is at the end and perpendicular to the A-ring. And when I say ‘end’ of the A-ring, there is no more to the A-ring. Its as if (and this is what is proposed by Bergrun) that the ship is ‘making’ the A-ring.

Originally posted by mikesingh ATS Post ID3501581

Here are a couple more pics. Cassini snapped the photos on Feb. 23, 2004, from a distance of 62.9 million kilometers (39 million miles). Notice the two ELONGATED objects which I’ve marked ‘A’ and ‘B’.

These have not been satisfactorily explained so far.

And what’s this ‘streak’ across the rings?

http://www.spacearchive.info/2005-06-03-jpl-saturn.jpg

“The image was taken in visible light by the spacecraft’s narrow-angle camera from a distance of approximately 1.4 million miles(2.3 million kilometers).”
Image courtesy: NASA/JPL/Space Science Institute

Originally posted by 1nL1ghtened Post ID3501618  reply to post by johnlear

John thank you for your thoughts and efforts. I did a little digging and I hope that this is not a violation in any way, but I found the image in question:

“These following series images are  jpg files of the original news release images, and a comparison to the NASA /JPL image used in “Ringmakers of Saturn” by Dr. Norman Bergrun.  Following the images is the actual news release as published by NASA in 1981.  No comment need be made regarding them, as they pretty well speak for themselves, demonstrating the composed nature of the material.” – Source 

This is the ORIGINAL NASA¡JPL image P-23876C composed from 4 Voyager 1 images {[P23876resized]}
This is the ORIGINAL NASA¡JPL image P-23876C composed from 4 Voyager 1 images {[P23876resized]}
This is the ORIGINAL NASA/JPL image P-23876C composed from 4 Voyager 1 images.

 

Mike Singh’s Reply

Originally posted by internos Post ID3501655

Walter Vincenti  Maybe John knows him; the French article claims that Norman and Vincenti revealed the existence of the pics. 

French article claims that Norman and Vincenti revealed the existence of the picsGuy Tarade
http://sebastoc.free.fr/OVNI/saturne/Ringmakers2.jpg

The caption of the pic claims that Guy Tarade drew it, but now we know it isn’t so (thanks to Jonh Lear for his efforts) and the copy he keeps in his left hand looks to have been copied by a book
(RMoS ?).

In according to what Bergrun wrote in response to John’s request,  this guy may have (somehow) published the pics somewhere (I know it isn’t so much, but is anyway a step).

The pic that John asked the permission to post, is not this:

but plate 5 on page 17.

Originally posted by mikesingh Post ID3501736

“And what’s this ‘streak’ across the rings?”

Originally posted by Beachcoma

That’s a nice picture. I’ve got the false colour composite of the same thing that makes it clearer, but it’s in the other HDD which I’ve disconnected from the PC. But from that picture you can see that the streak is actually behind the rings. In false colour image, you would’ve instantly recognized it as Saturn itself, or rather, her outline. It looks that way because Cassini was capturing it at a very artistic angle, with the rings in the foreground and Saturn in silhouette behind it. Truly beautiful shot.

The ones above are the so called “shepherd moons” that seem to maintain the shape of Saturn’s rings through their small gravitational influences. I forgot their names, but I’ll try to look for it later, along with the colour composite.

Edit: Sorry my bad, the shepherd moons are within the rings, specifically within the gaps. Those things are either “transient clumps of dust” or little “icy moonlets”. In other words they’ve no idea exactly what it is. However they’ve provisionally named it S/2004 S 3 and S/2004 S 6. It’s probably what they say it is, but speculate away until they actually name it something more creative 😀

Also, the ‘known’ shepherd moons and inner satellites:

Oh yeah, one more thing… Not exactly the colour composite I mentioned, but you can see the similarity. 

ADDITION

I found a wider-angle shot of the B&W above.

Credit: NASA

You can see the shadows cast by the ring-system on Saturn, and the bright band between the shadows is actually sunlight passing through one of the ring divisions. 

ADDITION Post ID3502113

I found the picture on-line, highest resolution like the copy I have in my HDD, it’s over 3MB so I’m just going to post the link. 

I found the picture on-line, highest resolution like the copy I have in my HDD, it's over 3Mb {[PIA08298-2)}
I found the picture on-line, highest resolution like the copy I have in my HDD, it’s over 3Mb {[PIA08298-2)}
Originally posted by internos Post ID3502056

“Walter Vincenti: Maybe John knows him; the french article claims that Norman and Vincenti revealed the existence of the pics.”

Originally posted by johnlear

In the Acknowledgments section of his book, the Ringmakers of Saturn, Norman has this to say:

“To Dr. Walter Vincenti, Professor of Aeronautics and Astronautics at Stanford University, special thanks are given for his valuable suggestions at the final phase of the manuscript.” 

What ENGINEERS Know

WALTER VINCENTI has had whole careers both as a cutting-edge aeronautical engineer and as a leading historian of technology. Looking back over them, he discusses what his dual vantage point has taught him about how technological innovation works.

AN INTERVIEW by ROBERT C. POST

Originally posted by mikesingh Post ID3502070

Is what internos posted above, a genuine scan of the one printed in Norman’s Ringmakers of Saturn?

Originally posted by johnlear Post ID3502070

Yes, that is a scan of Plate 27 on page 50. It shows the relative size of the vehicles to Saturns rings and Saturn itself.

Originally posted by johnlear  ATS Post ID3503201

Originally posted by 1nL1ghtened
The picture you are showing me mike, I believe to be an artists rendering, NOT an actual photo. There may be or has been an image simular to the one depicted… but I’d bet a large sum of money that this pic is a painting. 

This picture is what Norm Bergrun refers to as the photo that has been 'kluged up' (fabricated)}»

This picture is what Norm Bergrun refers to as the photo that has been ‘kluged up’ (fabricated)… It in no way resembles the photos that Norm used in the Ringmakers of Saturn.

To Continue this Thread Visit AboveTopSecret.com  This Post 

Originally posted by mikesingh

Ok, here’s something that corroborates the HST images.  This ‘alien craft’ orbiting Saturn has a sail like a submarine! Resembles the image of a similar one I posted on page 1 of this thread, near Phobos. 

This 'alien craft' orbiting Saturn has a sail like a submarine!
This ‘alien craft’ orbiting Saturn has a sail like a submarine!

Cassini again! Now NASA needs to improve its air brushing dept. Too much scotch dulls the brain, what? 😆

Cheers! 😀

Originally posted by internos Post ID3516716

Zorgon,
I managed somehow to find them:


I’ve already saved all on my HD, just in case they’d strangely disappear from NASA website, as many times happened before. 😀

Originally posted by internos Post ID3517027

What we should wonder is What it is.

IMHO, this does not look to be an effect due to exposure time, / motion blur: this is a SOLID object which deserves further investigations. 🙂

for instance, if the motion blur theory was correct, the object should look grossly so:

Originally posted by mikesingh  Post ID3517962

internos, that was an amazing find if ever there was one! WOW! :up: :up:

There were some who said that the cylindrical shape of the object you posted was due to long exposure. It’s not! If it is A to B in length, then a long exposure would have resulted in ‘A’ being ‘stationary’ and ‘B’ ‘stretching’ resulting in an [i]apparent[/i] increase in length over the exposure time. But THE OBJECT REMAINS THE SAME LENGTH THROUGHOUT ITS MOVEMENT.

Ron, I suggest you include interno’s images in your web site in that Saturn chapter of mine! 😀 Needless to say, with due acknowledgment to internos, for his amazing find! We need more guys like him don’t we? Not fellas who keep hollering, “Hey! I see nothing but stones!”

We seem to be getting nearer to nailing the truth, NASA/ESA notwithstanding!

[b]Freezer[/b], are you a telepath? How did you read my mind? Lol! 😆 That Bad Astronomy site is BAD, really BAD! :dn: Most of the explanations deserve to be funneled down the WC! 

Cheers! 😀

Originally posted by mikesingh Post ID3518000

And here’s an enlargement of the object. Found and sharpened the edges and then solarized it. Looks like we’ve got something here, what? :puz: This one would be more than Earth diameter!!

Did you notice the resemblance to that HST infrared image in the opening post? Hmmm…Now this is getting more interesting!! 

Cheers! 😀

Originally posted by internos Post ID3518500

Some new links, but before
Pic:
how to expose a pathetic attempt to debunk genuine pictures with the intentional purpose of deceive the people.

so, is there someone who believes that these  two ones are the same object? If is so, please, [b]prove[/b] it.

After this clarification, some other links here:

Originally posted by mikesingh Post ID3519011

I was particularly interested in the image of the object in internos’ last link, which is seen inside the rings as a white dot. 

I’ve zoomed the object and again solarized it. Here it is. Does it look like a moon of Saturn? If so, it’s got a darn weird shape! 

And there are a couple fainter elongated ones well outside the rings too. Let’s check out what the close-up reveals! Here it is…

Another of Saturn’s moons? Asteroid? :puz: Probably dust/ice on the lens! 

Cheers! 😀

Originally posted by internos Post ID3519807

There’s something else here…. 🙂

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS28/W00026015.jpg

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS17/N00047648.jpg

 


http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS04/N00022351.jpg

 

http://saturn1.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS03/N00008771

 

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS17/N00047648.jpg

 

http://terraform.no.sapo.pt/Menu_Principal/Saturno/Anomalias_em_Saturno1.htm
http://terraform.no.sapo.pt/Menu_Principal/Saturno/Anomalias_em_Saturno2.htm
http://terraform.no.sapo.pt/Menu_Principal/Saturno/Anomalias_em_Saturno3.htm

 Originally posted by johnlear Post ID3520419

He (Norman) has a chapter on Iapetus which is very interesting and also the subject of his next book which will be ready in another 6 months. The last chapter in Ringmakers of Saturn is about the moon and how he speculates is was transported to our solar system and how it was transported.

Originally posted by mikesingh

Here’s Iapetus on the right of the image. Was it an artificial alien space station? Notice the ring around it? 12 miles or about 60,000 feet high and 750 miles long. And it’s straight as an arrow! 

Here’s Iapetus on the right of the image... the ring around it... 12 miles or about 60,000 ..!..)
Here’s Iapetus on the right of the image… Notice the ring around it… 12 miles or about 60,000 feet high and 750 miles long, and it’s straight as an arrow!…

Compare both the images. Shades of George Lucas and his Star Wars saga!!

Needless to say, this is conjecture, until someone (Not NASA or ESA or other government agencies) goes there and has a closer inspection! 

Cheers! 😀

Originally posted by internos Post ID3520436

Everyone who wishes to debunk this thread, should know what has to debunk as an alternative to shut up:

[!]Infrared photograph of one of the gigantic cylindrical objects taken by Hubble in the rings of Saturn [thelivingmoon.com]}»
[!]Infrared photograph of one of the gigantic cylindrical objects taken by Hubble in the rings of Saturn [thelivingmoon.com] [583×427]highabcts}»
By the way, we got some news for you:

[!]Enhanced Plate 3 [RingMakers of Saturn - Norman Bergrun] [thelivingmoon.com] [750x1068]Highabcts}»
[!]Enhanced Plate 3 [RingMakers of Saturn – Norman Bergrun] [thelivingmoon.com] [750×1068]Highabcts}»
Originally posted by Beachcoma

That’s an interesting photo. What’s that in the background, the bright flash? If it was taken by Cassini, it seems to big to be the Sun. Or is it the sun?

Thank you for your question:

I just know that the UFO is crossing Iapetus, but i’ve no idea of what is the bright in the back.
There are two pics: this is the previous one
[im]http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS04/N00022350.jpg[/im]

[edit on 16/9/2007 by internos] [/quote]

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread301532/pg15#pid3520457

 

 

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS04/N00022351.jpg

Originally posted by mikesingh Post ID 3520462

And here’s some strange pics in the rings of Saturn.

Credit: NASA/JPL/Space Science Institute
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/rings/images/PIA07716-br500.jpg

Now for the bombshell! 

“Scientists cannot explain all observed features… The current dilemma facing scientists is that Cassini is detecting extended objects like those pictured here.” [See Below]

Have a nice day! 😀

The Clump/Moon Mystery

September 5, 2005  Full-Res: PIA07716

Scientists have long suspected that small moons hiding among Saturn’s ring strands might be producing some of the unusual structure observed in the F ring. While the shepherd moon Prometheus is the main culprit behind the strange behavior of Saturn’s F ring, it cannot explain all observed features. The current dilemma facing scientists is that Cassini is detecting extended objects like those pictured here — that may be either solid moons or just loose clumps of particles within the ring.

This montage of four enhanced Cassini narrow-angle camera images shows bright clump-like features at different locations within the F ring.

Two objects in particular, provisionally named S/2004 S3 and S/2004 S6, have been repeatedly observed by Cassini over the past 13.5 months and 8.5 months, respectively. The orbits for these two objects have not yet been precisely determined, in part because perturbations from other nearby moons make the orbits of objects in this region complicated. Thus, scientists cannot be completely confident at the present time if they in fact have observed new sightings of S3 and S6, or additional transient clumps.

The upper two images show features that may be S6. From previous observations, S6 appears to have an orbit that crosses that of the main F ring. This unexpected behavior currently is a subject of great interest to ring scientists.

The upper left image was taken on June 21, 2005, and shows an object in the outer ringlets of the F ring. The radial (or lengthwise) extent of the feature is approximately 2,000 kilometers (1,200 miles). The radial resolution on the ring is about 13 kilometers (8 miles) per pixel.

The image at the upper right was taken on June 29, 2005, and shows a bright feature within the F ring’s inner ringlets. The radial extent of the feature seen here is about 2,000 kilometers (1,200 miles); the radial resolution is 36 kilometers (22 miles).

The image at the lower left was taken on August 2, 2005, and shows a feature that may be S3. S3 has been found to have an orbital path that is tightly aligned with that of the main F ring. The radial resolution in the image is 3.5 kilometers (2.2 miles) per pixel.

The lower right image was taken on April 13, 2005, and has a radial resolution of 7 kilometers (4 miles) per pixel. This object does not appear to be either S3 or S6.

Structures like knots and clumps within the F ring often are transient, appearing and then disappearing within months. Repeated observation of the objects seen in this region hopefully will give scientists firm evidence about whether these features are actual moons that disturb the material around them or perhaps the short-lived products of interactions between the F ring and larger moons such as Prometheus.

The Cassini-Huygens mission is a cooperative project of NASA, the European Space Agency and the Italian Space Agency. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, manages the mission for NASA’s Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. The Cassini orbiter and its two onboard cameras were designed, developed and assembled at JPL. The imaging operations center is based at the Space Science Institute in Boulder, Colo.

For more information about the Cassini-Huygens mission visit http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov
The Cassini imaging team homepage is at http://ciclops.org

Credit: NASA/JPL/Space Science Institute 

Originally posted by mikesingh  Post ID3520476

Here’s a similar pic….

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS20/N00061934.jpg

Looks like a gigantic light bulb, what?? 😆 Needless to say, it’s gonna be passed off as some moon or asteroid in Saturn’s orbit!! 

It does seem strange. Not only the missing pixels, but also the shape which is rather intriguing! Also the ‘shadow’ in its mid section is puzzling. Let’s see what NASA said about it after calibration / validation. 

As per NASA, this image, N00061934, was taken on May 23, 2006 and received on Earth May 24, 2006. The camera they say, was pointing toward TETHYS at approximately 509,689 kilometers away. Hmmm…They seem to be way off the mark! Here’s what Tethys actually looks like..

NASA / JPL / J.Garrido
http://terraform.no.sapo.pt/Menu_Principal/Saturno/Tethys/Tethys.jpg

 

 

TETHYS, above. But the shiny ‘light bulb’ pic of the object is TETHYS according to NASA!!
And this is what the object looks like after embedding…

So what’s going on here? 

Cheers!

Originally posted by internos  Post ID3520477

There are objects of many shapes, so far we limited our searches to the saturn area, and possibly to the rings. Of course, we cannot hope to find higly definited objects, due the big distances, and we have to distinguish between “apparently” cigar shaped objects and “actually” ones. This can be difficult sometimes, but in the case of the pic with whic the OP opened the thread, is clear that isn’t an “effect due to the exposition”.

http://ufoweb.free.fr/saturnt.jpg

For instance, it should be simple to debunk these ones: there is simply to say WHAT they are and, then, to PROVE it. 🙂


 

Originally posted by internos Post ID3521380

The resolution of that pic is a ordinary infrared pic of Saturn resolution from Hubble in that series

A moon IMHO, usually does not appear from nowhere and does not disappear to nowhere but i could be wrong (now i’ll go to take a look at the ours one, to make sure it’s still there). Edit: it’s still there, a fourth crescent, better than nothing. 🙂

A rock, an asteroid, a comet IMHO shoud have hard time on following exactly the path of the F ring and then, without reason, change deliberately path in order to disappear to nowhere, but i could be wrong. 
Have you found later/previous time pics which shows the same objects?

I haven’t. If you have, please post it here.

Of course these objects could be many things, I really agree with you on this point. What we are trying to find out is what they are (this is the reason we’re gathering pics of Saturn which shows cylyndrical/cigar shaped objects) possibly basing our deductive reasoning on clues as i.e. NASA pics, instead of much-less-than-clues as i.e. chats .

No one has the proof to state that they are alien moterships:
No one has the proof to state that they are one of the options mentioned. 
If you got some proofs, feel free to provide it, no one will censore you.

What news?  Can I see a version of this pic that does NOT come from an “enhanced plate” in a single book?  It’s a bold claim, and the picture is interesting.  I’d love to see the original.

The news is that many of us were searching for it (and something else) and finally we have found it (who has followed the thread will understand it). In your opinion could not be news, for us OF COURSE it is, also i called it so. 🙂 Since I don’t know all the long/odd background of the pic and is not my purpose to provide bad informations about it (despite some idiots could think so), I hope that John will accomplish this task, of course if he’s available to. 🙂

Originally posted by johnlear Post ID

The photo below labeled as an enhanced Plate 3 from the book Ringmakers of Saturn by Norman Bergrun would be using the word ‘enhanced’ to avoid a more correct word which would be ‘photoshopped’.

A lot of work has been done to obscure the original detail of the photos in the Ringmakers of Saturn from which sections of this photoshopped composite were obviously taken.

I have labeled some of the original printing and also noted some of the obvious photoshopping in yellow.

Below is a photo of the real plate 3 (page 15) Ringmakers of Saturn by Norman Bergrun.

As you can see the photo at the top of this post could not be an ‘enhanced’ photo because none of the labeling matches and Normans signature has been photoshopped into the photo.

In addition the colors are different and points of light have been added.

The photos below show where Norman’s signature has been forged by a very poor forger. I don’t even think I have to point out the dissimilarities.

Norman’s alleged signature from photoshopped photo:

Norman’s signature from my book:


The original photos in the Ringmakers of Saturn are exquisite in detail. But in all fairness to Norm if he were to authorize their posting without the viewer having read the accompanying text they would be just more anomalous pictures of the rings of Saturn.

 

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